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I called the billing office for the Ballard Emergency Physicians today, as that to the best of my understanding, my bill is due in a couple days.

You see, I called on June 21 to let them know I was still in appeals with my insurance. They then informed me that I was granted one reprieve already, and that was all they would offer.

When I called today, they let me know that my due date was reset again (though they couldn’t tell me when it was set to) and that this happened on June 21 when I called. I let her know that wasn’t the information I received before. “Then the person that informed you of that was mistaken. She filed a complaint on your behalf and it was sent to the physicians office for review.”

Interesting.

I was told that my account was not in any danger, at present, for going into collections.

Excellent.

I now am wondering if this has something to do with the complaints I filed with the Attorney General or the Department of Health… (maybe both.)

Stay tuned.

See previously: Emergency Room Charges, Ballard Emergency Physicians and Swedish Ballard Emergency Room, Insurance, Emergency Room and Complaints/Appeals, Insurance Appeal Update

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Yesterday I went all the way up to Mountlake Terrace, Washington to present myself before the Premera appeals panel. I got there right on time, was well dressed, and a bit out of place with my pink/purple hair. I wore heels just to make me a little more fierce and ready for action. I went to the desk of building one, and presented myself. There was no badge for me. After some calling around, the desk person found the people I was supposed to meet with, and about 10 minutes later, a woman came out, looking perfectly present, and let me know they weren’t expecting me.

I suppose they get that a lot. The way that the second appeal process works is that you write a second letter of appeal, and they send you back a letter for a formal meeting, during business hours, either at their offices or by conference call. I’m sure that most people take one look at that letter and throw it in the trash, giving in to defeat. After all, the offices are far away, and if you’re working (or very ill), a conference call is intimidating.

They quickly assembled the panel. Two were in person, a moderator and a claims analyst. Then there were two on the phone, a physician and another person, whose role I have forgotten. She spoke the least of all of them. What I had expected to be intimidating, was totally not. These people kind of acted like they wanted to be my friends. Well, you know, the kind of friends you make in an hour at a party and never see again.

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I’ve noted here and here the beginning parts of my fight against Ballard Emergency Physicians(BEP)/Swedish Medical Center – Ballard and Premera because of failing to let me know prior to my emergency room visit that though the facility (Swedish Medical Center – Ballard) is in-network with my insurance, Ballard Emergency Physicians are not, leading to charges 2-3x the maximum allowed, leaving me with the remainder. I’m not the only one this has happened to, and it’s been a problem for another woman I know with a similar situation to mine.

I’ve made some noise to make a difference, pretty much the best way I know how. I started by sending my story to my state legislators, Sen. Jeanne Kohl-Welles and Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson. Both of them sent me personal responses, and even had their staff do research on my situation. They not only filed a complaint with the Insurance Commission for me (which, unfortunately, did not end up to my benefit), but also gave me further resources, and Rep. Dickerson indicated an interest in researching sponsoring legislation regarding the practice.

The letters to Senators Murray and Cantwell received completely canned responses, which was not entirely unexpected, but also discouraging while Healthcare Reform is such a big topic. Rep. McDermott has not yet sent me a reply.

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Buyer Beware! If you have the misfortune of being in an emergency and go to Swedish Medical Center Ballard, you should know that the physicians that treat you are contracted by Swedish Ballard and do not necessarily take the insurance you have, even if the facility (the hospital itself) is in network. You may be liable for charges exceeding your insurance’s maximum allowed amount. This can be much more than what is the maximum allowed by Medicaid. This has happened to me as well as a friend of mine. We were not notified by our insurance, Premera Blue Cross of Washington, that we might be in this situation when seeking emergency care.

Who are the ER physicians? They are listed as Ballard Emergency Physicians, and their billing office is contracted out of Oklahoma. This puts them far away from the administrative offices, as well as the doctors who may serve you.

In case you wondered, here is the information for the Ballard Emergency Physicians, as made available on the Washington Secretary of State‘s website, and the Department of Licensing (1, 2) website.

For reference:

Location Address:
EMERGENCY DEPT SWEDISH M.C.
NW MARKET & BARNES
SEATTLE, WA, 98107

Mailing Address:
5409 BARNES AVE NW
SEATTLE, WA, 98107-3840

and also:

Location Address:
5300 TALLMAN AVE NW
SEATTLE, WA, 98107-3932

Mailing Address:
PO BOX 70707
SEATTLE, WA, 98127-1507

President JARRIS , RAY
Vice President SCOTT , MARK
Secretary WEXLER , ROBERT
Treasurer BROWN , MICHAEL

Please share if you’ve had the issue of non-coverage due to the physicians not being under your insurance, and if so, how you resolved it, or what you did to resolve it? I’ll update later with what I’m doing.

See previously: Emergency Room Charges.

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I know more about getting a homeless person with mental illness medical and mental health services, covered and paid for, than my own.

Turns out, there’s a simplicity that comes with relying on DSHS health plans, public clinics and state and county supported hospitals. Not so for those with some funds, and insurance.

I ended up in the ER (Swedish Medical Center Ballard) a couple months ago with what turned out to be a DVT. I knew my insurance covered the hospital, and my doctor referred me to the local ER, just a few blocks from my house. Last Friday I received a bill for the Ballard Emergency Physicians, the people who treated me (and gave about 15 min of face time) for $550. No insurance coverage, except for the “maximum allowed amount” of about $150.

The billing service that sent me the bill was helpful – they let me know that though they got the name of the person billed wrong, that the problem was with the insurance (Premera Blue Cross) and the physician group. Turns out that though the facility (Swedish Hosptital Ballard) is covered by the insurance and is in-network, the physicians that work in the ER (Ballard Emergency Physicians) are contracted, and have their own insurance preferences, in this case, NOT PREMERA.) This means that a person can be in a state of emergency, taken to the nearest emergency room, have coverage for being in the facility, but not for the treatment.

When I asked the insurance how to avoid this problem in the future, she suggested to “call ahead.”

I spoke to a supervisor with the billing service for the physicians group. Not surprisingly, she laid the blame on Premera, saying that they’re well aware of this kind of thing going on, and that this is an increasing trend at hospitals to cut costs. Others have commented that there is also rampant greed with the physicians groups, in addition to difficulties with wrangling with Premera themselves.

It’s a sick system, really. One that I was previously unaware of. I know I’m lucky that the amount I’m being charged, ultimately, is only $300, which is chump change compared to what some people walk out of the ER with. However, it’s offensive to me that once you past that threshold into the ER, you have no choice of seeing a provider that’s covered by your insurance (let alone, lab services, which are an additional contract out!)

There needs to be health care reform. It’s ridiculous that the systems I’ve navigated for indigent clients are simpler than the systems I’m navigating for myself. Profit and cost-cutting get in the way of the bottom line of getting people medical care.

And I’ve looked at an independent party’s ratings of the Swedish system compared to UW and Harborview for relevant conditions – they might have top of the line technology, but their outcomes are worse than expected. What are they spending money on?

Pardon the disjointed rant. For once I’m not doing as thorough a job as I try to for this blog. :)

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